President Trump’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, on Sunday said that it’s “possible” the president spoke to his former attorney, Michael Cohen, ahead of his congressional testimony.

“Which would be perfectly normal,” Giuliani said on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “So what?”

“As far as I know, President Trump did not have discussions with him,” he added. “Certainly, no discussions with him in which he told him or counseled him to lie.”

BuzzFeed News reported last week that Trump directed Cohen to lie to Congress about a deal to build a Trump Tower in Moscow. The report claimed that special counsel Robert Mueller’s office had evidence to prove the claim, however the special counsel’s office disputed the accuracy of the story, calling the “characterization … not accurate.” It is not clear which parts of the story Mueller’s office disputed, and BuzzFeed stands by its reporting.

Giuliani on Sunday maintained that the Buzzfeed story was “phony” and “scandalous … fake news.”

However, he said although he had no knowledge of such conversations, the president may have discussed Cohen’s testimony with him without directing him to lie.

“If he had any discussions with him, they’d be about the version of the events that Michael Cohen gave them which they all believe was true,” Giuliani said.

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