President Trump’s attorney Rudy Giuliani claimed on CNN Wednesday night that he “never said there was no collusion between the [Trump] campaign” and Russia — and that he has only ever said that Trump himself never colluded. Giuliani later added, “If the collusion happened, it happened a long time ago.”

The backdrop: CNN’s Chris Cuomo was grilling Giuliani about the allegation that former campaign manager Paul Manafort shared polling data with Konstantin Kilimnik, a Ukrainian political operative believed to have ties to Russian intelligence.